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December 2009
Update
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December 13 |
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I almost forgot about these rounds.
Hornady sent me this box of CD ammo before I received
the box pictured below (3091299). I believe this
special lot was primed with Winchester primers.
As shown, this particular lot showed no signs of deformed
primers. I do not know if this lot number is available
for sale. |
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December 9 |
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First let me say that
I honestly believe that the good folks at Hornady want to
find out and fix what ever is going on with their Critical
Defense 9mm ammo when used with the Rohrbaugh pistols.
There have been some problems and I have tried to do what I
can to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.
Tonight I fired some replacement Critical Defense 9mm ammo
sent to me by Hornady. The lot number is 3091299. |
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I fired this lot of
ammo in three different pistols and you can see that there
still is a problem when fired in my Rohrbaugh. As a
matter of full disclosure, my Rohrbaugh R9 has been ported
since I first submitted my "Unscientific Ammo Report"
in the Rohrbaugh Forum (see below). However, if you
look at the picture above and compare it to my original
pictures you will see the same 'Fried Egg' primers.
I also shot this ammo in a Springfield Armory EMP
with a 3" barrel and in a Springfield Armory XD with a 5" barrel.
The fired cases were starting to show a little cratering and
none looked like the cases fired in the Rohrbaugh. |
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I also shot some
Remington Subsonic ammo just to see if the lower
velocity ammo would feel any different, function the pistol,
etc. As shown in the photo I had two misfires and two 'fried
egg' primers. |
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Next came some
Winchester T-Series 147gr ammo (fourth generation
Black Talon). This shot real well and the fired cases
are just starting to show just a little cratering. |
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My conclusion:
I am not a ballistics engineer so I can't put a definite
finger on what might be causing the problem. I do know
that Hornady had been using Seller & Bellot
primers because they couldn't get Winchester primers.
I have to assume that the Remington Subsonic ammo was
primed using Remington primers but they, too, had
problems (as shown in the photo). I would also
have to assume that the Winchester T-Series ammo used
Winchester primers.
My choice for ammo for my Rohrbaugh,
based on my experience at the range, is Federal Hydro Shock
124gr JHP, Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP or the
Winchester T-Series. All three shot reliably
without discomfort. Since I am staking my life on this
equipment (pistol & ammo) I will only use these three
choices. |
My Next Project

No, I am not contemplating making a R9 chambered
for 50BMG... :>) I am going to make noise with my
AR-50A1 next weekend.
Non-Scientific Ammo
Test
I have been a
competitive rifle & pistol shooter for over 35 years and
during that period of time I came to realize that quality is
not inexpensive. The old saying "You get what
you pay for" certainly applies to firearms as well as to
ammunition. This especially holds true when you depend
on that one 'special' firearm to protect your life.
I laugh out loud when I read a post that says "So & So" ammo
is too expensive to run through my $1,200.00 pistol.
That is like saying its OK to gas up your 1968 427 Chevelle SS with Mexican
gasoline (which will cause your engine to run even after it
is turned off).I purchased my
Rohrbaugh R9 pistol in August (I purchased it 'used') and I
have found it to be quite a handful. I sent it off to
Rohrbaugh to have it checked out. I got it back just the
other day and off to the range I went (indoor range,
temperature 77 degrees).
I have held an Arizona Concealed Weapons Permit for
over six years and I have gone through a number of small,
concealable handguns trying to find the one that was just
'perfect' and would fit into my back pocket using a pockethoslsters.com rig. I tried the Walther PPK .380 (too heavy),
the Beretta Tomcat .32ACP (too small for my hand), a Ruger
LCP (the opening in the frame forward of the trigger is too
large and 'bites' like a snapping turtle after the trigger
is pulled & released), a Bersa Thunder .380ACP (too large to carry in
normal back pocket), a Walther TPH in
.22LR (not bad but too small for my hand) and a Smith & Wesson Model 61 Escort
(again, too small). Then I discovered the Rohrbaugh R9
and my search was over. :>)
Like any firearm (rifle or pistol) the type of ammo you run
through it can make a huge difference on how well it
performs. All of the different types of 9mm FMJ ammo
(Winchester, Federal, CCI, etc.) I tried functioned just fine
- no jams, no misfires, no failure to extract, etc.
I also ran three different types of factory 'personal
defense' ammo through my R9 as well and here is where
performance changed.
I offer the following as 'Information Only' as results can vary in your own R9.
Bottom line: If you are going to carry a firearm for
personal defense make sure the ammo you choose works and
cost be damned. |

| The Federal
Premium Hydra Shok 124gr JHP ammo performed flawlessly.
Very manageable recoil, no feeding problems, no extraction
problems. This is high velocity ammo and signs of high
pressure were minimal. The primers still had a rounded
edge. Accuracy was excellent. |

| Speer Gold Dot
124gr GDHP ammo also functioned flawlessly in my pistol.
There was noticeably more felt recoil when compared to the
Federal Hydra Shok ammo. This is high velocity ammo
and signs of high pressure were minimal.
The primers still had a rounded edge. Accuracy was excellent. |

| Hornady Critical Defense 115gr FTX
ammo is a high velocity ammo that does show definite signs
of high pressure (see picture below) when used in my R9
pistol. The primers on the fired cases are flat and
the firing pin strikes are more than flat - they are
actually scrapped across the surface of the primer. I
only fired five rounds as I did not like what I was seeing. I also
experienced misfires (three out of five rounds). A second
pull of the trigger fired the round. Accuracy was
excellent but the flat and scrapped primers are not
something I feel comfortable with. |

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